Jacobs Spring

As America is gearing up to perhaps open another front (against Iran) in our world war you speak of not learning from the past RoxyDoxy: har har har har! That is some hilarious stuff man!

Yeah JN, I do have a Krem news link, that is funny: har har har har. Sheeees!

Well JN, our invasion of Iraq directly led to the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis (far greater numbers than even the most liberal of war-hawks’ assertions against Saddam), and to the displacement of millions of others. Our invasion of Afghanistan has led directly to the death of at this time undetermined numbers of Afghani people as compared to what? The innumerable deaths Afghanis suffered when we furnished them weapons to battle the Soviets, or the innumerable deaths that occurred after the Soviets withdrew, and we then withdrew our “assistance” allowing for a decade long warlord war? American “special” forces could have taken care of Osama, but we had to full-scale invade their country: somebody is making money! And they are now producing record amounts of poppy: nice! As per two counts of “just” war theory the United States is guilty and guilty; and America shall one day account for it’s crimes against humanity!

I bring up my Jewishness (who accepts Jesus as my Lord and Savior nonetheless!!!!) purely for goy reaction Glinda! ;): we are all children of Abraham (well, of Noah anyway!!!) milady; Arab, Indian, European, Asiatic . . .

All of my comments are wholly derivative from my religious belief, but I demand not that adulterers be put to death as the Old Law dictates, that is where the saving grace of Jesus comes in (in fact the only biblical commandment America takes seriously is “stealing” b/c of their love of their precious “private” property: “property” [you don’t pay property tax you don’t have a house within which to house your trinkets] that you annually pay taxes on and never really own; and we certainly never practice Jubilee!). Jesus, that decentralized communist par excellence, the one who overturned that tables of the money changers and lenders, the ultimate enemy of capitalism (his parables often used economic verbiage because money seems to be the only language people understand)! Jesus declared, “if you want to be perfect (become a bum like him) . . .

Thankfully St. Paul vouchsafed Jesus's words declaring money to be the root of o so many evils, and here our very society is predicated upon money: har har har har. America, the Babylonian Whore!

Well JN after seeing me dribble you'll need even more beer! By the way, I didn't think the Irish were allowed an opinion, I thought the Anglos just gave you orders . . .

Har har har har: just kidding brother. Ireland is now a "sovereign" nation that is right (we even have a couple Irish judges here in America) . . .

Free Ireland now (and the Brits gotta give up mass cash for the centuries long injustices)!

pax vobiscum

Man threatens to “shoot up” Hoopfest

Well Navy Scott, dudes would not be getting blown up by IEDs if they were not invading other countries; the other side must not have a Navy with which to fight, hence the IEDs.

And you killin_4aliving, since "you" (b/c you are speaking as a recruiter in the 1st person), or the U.S. military, get 3/4s a trillion dollars annually from us taxpayers, what more support would you need? Moral? You get that from every Tom, Dick, and Harry in this country. Me? I am here to destroy evil not condone it! Tis funny that for all of my posts that have been deleted I have never used profanity, you should work on that brother.

Fear not though, Jesus even blessed a Roman centurion, and the Roman soldiers are the ones that physically crucified him: go figure!

I hear you gozags13! There are no innocents in war eh; no, not one . . .

The Revolutionary War you say?!? Those darned English insurrectionists/"American" terrorists, whatever; if it were not for the French the Brits would have hung all of those traitorous curs!

JuanitoNegro: your name is rebuttal enow. Just another negro doing the rich mans' heavy lifting, but since you do not question orders you are of the most dangerous variety . . . Alas, you took a high school history class: very good.

Swamisez: I hate nothing sir, just evil, hence I speak truth to power!

In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful

In a world of rivals; I am unmatched.

I have no peers; yet my peerlessness renders me enslaved.

I promote naught but love; yet I am surrounded by consuming competition.

I lived for me, and died for you: I have been reborn passionless.

I hurry slowly: this short life having been too long.

I surrender to dying fighting; going into that night with silent rage and whimpering compassion.

I have been humbled; my spirit rests.

Infinite Oneness beckons: plurality, triangularity, duality, encompassed within eternal singularity - awesome -!

With determined presumption I cast hope away; no need to hope against hope because all have a judgment day; the endless day after that is home.

Death may have the final word, but timelessness is beyond articulation.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; what is good for me is good for you (are you sure about that?!?); that is, relatively so, truthfully.

Can we get a common good here? We have one, money, the root of o so much evil.

The state of man is business; the City of God is personal; all the Lord now waits for is us to forever lay business aside and keep our relations personal.

Now is gone.

Goodnight.

Freedom of Speech does not exist. Are you too policed by your “fellow” citizenry, the news stations, big business, and the government into ideological conformity?

If you think deeply enough upon this matter you will realize that since the day of your birth, you have been . . .

It is called fascism.

Peace

True “communism” which should actually be appropriately named Jesusianism, has not been correctly attempted since the apostles were put to death, and the first Christians violently persecuted. All 20th century “communist” nations were simply the ones with the bigger guns centralizing control over production and consumption. Decentralization of our representatives is vital to success, b/c when a ruling class is sequestered into some “capitol” who only hears the desires of big money, corruption is ensured.

I also want to make explicitly clear that any “class-war”, or any revolution, whose aim is the abolishment of economic inequality has to be non-violent; or else it is simply another violent struggle between men, and I am sorely unimpressed with what that has accomplished humanity. A true revolution that seeks to lift humankind up entire shall be successful if peace is our only weapon of choice!

If two hundred million Americans simply woke up tomorrow and said, “we will no longer participate in the fiction of money and credit cards”, and we threw these idols to the ground realizing they are not only useless but actually evil tools of oppression (which shall one day occur as notably writ in Isaiah and Revelations among other Scripture), that day humanity shall be truly liberated! When we dispense with the fiction that competition for money and resources breeds innovation and progress, when we dispense with the fiction that a persons’ selfish ‘pursuit of happiness’ somehow leads to our overall greater good, when we dispense with the fiction that perpetual war will somehow make the world a safer place, when we dispense with these fictions the rich and mighty shall no longer have any power. They can stay holed up in their mountains and out in the countryside, but they will no longer get paid.

The day we wake up and say, “what can I do for you my brother/sister”, and not, “what is in it for me”, is the day humanity shall realize our divinity; and this will come to pass brother!

And not one drop of blood will be shed!

pax vobiscum

As the debate continued, I offered a final quite abridged response:

I don’t ever recall America being invaded by a foreign nation PBP. The Brits razed D.C., and Mexico tried to stop us from “annexing” Texas, but outside of that I do not remember any foreign armies occupying American soil. Well, I suppose we could say those “evil” Native Americans tried to steal our land, but we don’t count them; anyways, they would have never discovered alcoholism or casinos if it were not for the white mans’ benevolence.

Cheddar, “our way of life” has been created by our continuing world conquest. From our centuries long conquest of the continental U.S., the continued westward expansion ever giving us more land and resources to exploit; our conquest of numerous Pacific Islands; our endless excursions into Central America and Caribbean nations/islands; our exploitation of myriad South American nations: we go in and more often than not at some time, have to militarily fortify our corporate interests by installing or “aiding” factions who are willing to do business, and allow us to exploit them for resources, cheap labor, and military bases. And so the story goes . . .

Interestingly enough, every time we have invaded, or “aided”, foreign nations to “liberate” them, American business and military interests are also served. Apparently being so altruistically unselfish pays quite well.

You state that the MTV generation will one day realize this nation has gone to crap, and hopefully will one day wake up to fight for our way of life. Yes, I know, we need that foreign oil and those pipelines secured or else our way of life would be seriously imperiled. It is all about making sure we get ours eh . . .

pax vobiscum

Refuse to deploy!

State that you serve far higher authority, an authority that does not condone illegal wars of aggression for the rich mans' profits.

Serve Jesus our Lord and Savior, and not a corrupt plutocracy!

Killing brown people does not safeguard our freedom, or promote democracy, anywhere; it simply makes money for the warmakers and oil barons.

And if you choose to murder for the rich man, demand to be paid the same amount as Blackwater mercenaries: after all, if you are going to burn forever you might as well profit today.

To which a reader replied: “Nice thoughts, Empyrius, but this wasn't a draft. All of us who have served know the leaders of this country are frequently misguided and sometimes plain stupid. But if you feel called to protect our way of life and country, you don't always get to choose the fight.

This fight sucks. I pray our elected leaders do what we hired them for and BRING OUR SOLDIERS HOME before we lose anymore loved ones.”

And I rebut: A couple of Arab extremists never jeopardized our way of life (the consequence of American bases on Saudi soil), but astonishingly enough America is on the brink of financial Armageddon: strange. World domination is not cheap apparently.

“All of us who have served know the leaders of this country are frequently misguided and sometimes plain stupid”

So that makes the people serving what?!? Does “just following orders” exculpate one of culpability? Surely just because the U.S. government, and their MSM echo chamber, says it is doing “good” does not make it so.

Sociopath evildoers believe they are doing good, or they simply don’t care; greedy sociopaths lie. Alas . . .

I know current service members were not drafted, but given this nation’s economic climate, and the incessant bombardment of Pentagon propaganda, do our children hoping to get some college money really have a choice? Flipping burgers or working part-time at Wal-Mart are alluring career choices I admit, but for many of our children, ‘being all you can be’ just sounds so much more enticing (foreign adventures, ‘free’ education/training, “glory”, “honor”, “exceptionalism”, etc.), especially when you know a postal job awaits thee back home. No, there may be no physical draft, but if you have already been mentally drafted, physical enforcement is unnecessary: did you not pledge allegiance to a flag in your public school? Did you not learn how the Puritans had nice little Thanksgiving dinners with the Natives? Did you not know we freed the Filipinos of Spanish despotic monkery a century ago? Did you not know that freedom of speech, if even unheard by the masses, but the NYT’s (or Belo’s, Murdock’s, Msnbc’s) “editorial opinions” heard by all, guarantees you are free? How is that Avista bill? Is not the “free”-market providing you with ample choices?

Did you not know; freedom is slavery; ignorance is strength; & war is peace?

But in times of war (which the U.S. is in perpetually), o, wait, Congress has not declared war, well, neither Korea or Vietnam were officially wars either . . ., well, in times of “authorized use of military force”, I know the present “good” we are doing can often be lost on those of us without a moral intuition, proper education, or security clearance. Indeed, like Raimondo writes, “What's the rationale, this time? The liberation of Afghan women? That'll get the feminists. The myth of bin Laden's presence? That'll convince the more credulous. Good old fashioned do-gooder-ism will get the Hollywood liberals, who will jump at the chance to get all patriotic. The Republicans will support it [invading Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.], while urging a more aggressive war policy – and the Keynesians will love it, because, after all, any kind of government spending is good, it doesn't matter if you build roads, pyramids, or empires. It's all good”.

By all means, go forth and conquer, errr, I mean, “liberate”, as the homeland crumbles. Because as U.S. politicians bicker over which pet projects to indebt our children to, the only true stimulus package we have left is war. And as everybody becomes more hopelessly in debt, the “evildoers” over there are always ready targets upon whom we can unleash our frustration, and also make some money while we are at it! Freedom is not free you know, somebody has to pay! Well we are paying; the only question is cui bono.

Some people are making money. And once we get those Middle East markets going the money will start flowing . . ., just like gas from a nozzle.

pax vobiscum